Logs for #nikola for 2019-02-14

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11:38:42 <gour> morning
11:39:03 <gour> which compiler you recommend for sass plugin?
11:40:05 <felixfontein> I'm using sassc
11:41:45 <gour> felixfontein: do you work with bootstrap?
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11:59:28 <ChrisWarrick> gour: I wouldn’t bother integrating Bootstrap with Nikola
12:00:18 <ChrisWarrick> gour: I currently have a fairly fragile workflow that involves humans, but I plan to get it automated today, since it crashed yet again
12:00:31 <gour> ChrisWarrick: some other css framework?
12:00:44 <ChrisWarrick> gour: Bootstrap is fine
12:00:51 <ChrisWarrick> gour: the build process doesn’t need to be handled by Nikola though
12:01:19 <felixfontein> gour: nope, I'm using my own scss files
12:01:45 <gour> ChrisWarrick: i'm just thinking of light theme customizations
12:02:40 <gour> although for an exercisze, i plan to convert some other plain theme
12:09:46 <gour> i have to convert ~50 posts from some PHP CMS to Nikola and so far i was using rst markup. i still consider asciidoc, but in case i'm going to stay with rst, will rst-style metadata support stay or am i better to move to yaml-meta?
12:10:52 <ChrisWarrick> It will stay
12:13:05 <gour> good, you're certainly more fond of rst over asciidoc, right?
12:13:41 <ChrisWarrick> rst is the main format in nikola. asciidoc is not part of the core plugin set.
12:15:29 <gour> ChrisWarrick: would you or do you use rst outside of nikola as well? here i'm thinking about study-notes, non-technical docs, slide-presentations etc.=
12:15:31 <gour> ?
12:16:25 <ChrisWarrick> gour: Not really.  I use reST only on my blog.  Personal notes are plaintext.  Presentations and documents are LaTeX.
12:20:57 <gour> ChrisWarrick: ok, thank you. eventually, for paper output/pdf i want LaTeX as well, but besides html, i'd need epub as well. sphinx does it all...btw, for presentations i've found https://github.com/regebro/hovercraft
12:22:00 <ChrisWarrick> going from html to epub is easy
12:23:04 <gour> you're using beamer for slides?
12:38:27 <ChrisWarrick> yup
12:56:29 <felixfontein> beamer's the best for slides!
14:19:32 <ralsina> for presentations, use rst2pdf. Not pretty but good in so many ways
14:20:07 <ralsina> https://twitter.com/ralsina/status/1094996165366550528
14:20:33 <ralsina> And once your presentation is finished, everyone will be able to see it forever, on any device
14:21:06 <felixfontein> there's no such thing as forever ;)
14:22:35 <gour> ralsina: will take a look. have you seen https://github.com/regebro/hovercraft ?
14:23:00 <ralsina> I hate impress.js
14:23:23 <ralsina> Presentations are huge folders full of things instead of a single file
14:23:56 <ralsina> If I ever actually want to hack a quick presentation on the web I use hackmd.io
14:24:03 <ralsina> Just some markdown, click a button, get a URL
14:25:00 <ralsina> But since I already have styles created and such, I only need to write reSt, type a command, and there, PDF ready to use. And if it turns out the room has a 4:3 800x600 projector? I can fix the presentation to work there in 30 seconds :-)
14:25:44 <gour> heh, that's cool
14:26:04 <ralsina> With reveal and impress it usually becomes a nightmare of "zoom" / "oh, now the text doesn't fit" / "no contrast" / "chnge theme" / "zoom more" / "text doesn't fit again"
14:28:34 <ralsina> Me, I usually just do black-on-white presentations in 16:9 and 4:3 ratios and am happy
14:29:45 <ralsina> I even use pygments bw theme so things are nicely monochrome
14:31:53 <gour> any idea how to code the markdown example contained in https://pandoc.org/try/?text=This+is+~~a+strikeout+example+containing+[link](http%3A%2F%2Fexample.com)+and+some+%22additional%22+text.~~&from=markdown&to=rst to rst?
14:32:21 <gour> iow. strikeout of the sentence containing hyperlink?
14:32:41 <ralsina> reSt doesn't support nested markup, BUT
14:32:48 <ralsina> just apply a strike class
14:32:58 <ralsina> and then text-decoration: line-through; in CSS
14:33:25 <ralsina> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6518788/rest-strikethrough
14:36:18 <gour> ralsina: thanks...hyperlink makes things a bit more complex...will reST ever get support for nested markup?
14:43:25 <ralsina> nope
14:46:26 <gour> too complicated?
14:48:12 <felixfontein> just for that reason, reST will never be my favorite format
14:51:20 <gour> felixfontein: i tend to agree with you here...do you use md?
14:54:36 <felixfontein> for my blog I use reST, for everything else in my life LaTeX if it's not plain text
14:57:49 <gour> ok. i'll try some time with asciidoc(tor) since ralsina improved support for it recently by fixing some stuff...
14:58:27 <ralsina> the parser for reSt is garbage, so adding that is semi-impossible
14:58:34 <ralsina> that's also why no other implementation exists
14:58:54 <ralsina> OTOH that is why we know exactly what is or is not reSt ;-)
14:59:14 <ralsina> (ok, there is pandoc I guess)
15:00:41 <gour> heh
16:34:12 <gour> i see that https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2809 is closed, does it mena thatn ow one does not miss anything when using md over rst within nikola?
17:03:16 <ralsina> gour: as far as I know, yes.
17:10:23 <gour> ralsina: thanks, that helps a lot
17:49:19 <gour> ralsina: in regard to the supported extensions, i wonder whether is markdown-3.0.x closer to pandoc-markdown or to e.g. php-markdown?
17:51:06 <gour> also, is it possible to use it along with 3rpd party extensions listed here: https://github.com/Python-Markdown/markdown/wiki/Third-Party-Extensions ?
18:23:58 <ralsina> yes
18:24:12 <ralsina> install the extension and add it in conf.py
18:24:22 <gour> ok, thanks
18:24:36 <ralsina> markdown 3.0 needs a PR, tho
18:24:51 <gour> yeah, i'm aware of it
18:24:58 <ralsina> https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/pull/3175
18:25:35 <ralsina> blah, has a huge conflict
18:34:55 <ChrisWarrick> gour: FYI, my bootstrap+sass stuff is at https://github.com/Kwpolska/chriswarrick.com/tree/master/themes/kw . (The .scss files are proprietary, don’t steal.)
18:44:05 <gour> ChrisWarrick: thanks. don't worry ;)
19:03:26 <ChrisWarrick> I also have a nice rant post about the JS ecosystem, coming up at chriswarrick.com tomorrow.
19:26:03 <KwBot> [nikola-themes] Kwpolska reopened issue #166: Zen does not show search_form https://github.com/getnikola/nikola-themes/issues/166
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