Logs for #nikola for 2017-01-24

01:11:49 <KwBot> [nikola] Benaiah opened issue #2645: `nikola auto` serves CSS with wrong MIME type on livereload https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2645
04:35:01 <KwBot> [nikola] ericcotelnu opened issue #2646: KeyError: page_index_folder_index https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2646
16:43:21 <KwBot> [nikola] Kwpolska assigned issue #2646 to felixfontein: KeyError: page_index_folder_index https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2646
16:43:40 <KwBot> [nikola] Kwpolska unassigned issue #2646: KeyError: page_index_folder_index https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2646
16:43:40 <KwBot> [nikola] Kwpolska assigned issue #2646 to Kwpolska: KeyError: page_index_folder_index https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2646
16:50:01 <KwBot> [nikola] Kwpolska closed issue #2646: KeyError: page_index_folder_index https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2646
16:50:15 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMbjl
16:50:15 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/master ff8e04b Chris Warrick: Fix #2646 — don’t crash if PAGE_INDEX is True...
16:54:31 -travis-ci:#nikola- getnikola/nikola#8307 (master - ff8e04b : Chris Warrick): The build passed.
16:54:32 -travis-ci:#nikola- Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/compare/e9297b2bafef...ff8e04b02ffc
16:54:32 -travis-ci:#nikola- Build details: https://travis-ci.org/getnikola/nikola/builds/194883087
17:02:59 <ToApolytoXaos> ChrisWarrick: lol, what's "brown paper bag" label tag?
17:03:04 <ToApolytoXaos> for panic attacks?
17:16:36 <ChrisWarrick> ToApolytoXaos: http://catb.org/jargon/html/B/brown-paper-bag-bug.html
17:31:49 <ToApolytoXaos> hahahahaha!
17:31:54 <ToApolytoXaos> I didn't know that ^_^
17:32:21 <ToApolytoXaos> damn, I would have laughed my ass off to see Linus in a brown paper bag!
20:26:48 <KwBot> [nikola] Fotofreund opened issue #2647: How to arrange several figures in a flexible list (like standard gallery)? https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2647
20:51:53 <Nicolateral> Hi everyone
20:52:14 <Nicolateral> I have a few questions about Nikola software, anybody have some time to spare ?
20:57:28 <wirew0rm> Nicolateral: hey :)
20:58:54 <wirew0rm> Nicolateral: don't ask to ask ;) I'm also new to nikola, so I don't know if I can help you.
21:01:26 <wirew0rm> Nicolateral: so just ask your question, but be prepared to hang around for a while, people have different timezones and biorythms ;)
21:01:46 <Nicolateral> Hay thanks :-) It's actually simple, i have to manage a website but the owner wants to be able to post new articles when i'm not here using Nikola, only thing i will be changing this website with raw html
21:02:10 <ToApolytoXaos> why edit raw html?!
21:02:35 <ToApolytoXaos> that's the purpose of Nikola, to generate static content *for* you
21:02:37 <Nicolateral> Actually i use Dreamweaver but i also use raw html
21:02:48 <Nicolateral> yes i know but i have my habits :-)
21:03:07 <ralsina> Nicolateral: nikola supports raw html as one of the input formats
21:03:40 <Nicolateral> anyway i just wanted to know if the owner use Nikola to post new article, is it gonna to overwrite somehow the changes i have made in the meantime ? or is there a way to import the changes ?
21:03:44 <ralsina> Just put the post or page metadata on the top of the file inside a HTML comment. "nikola new_post -f html"  should just work
21:04:28 <ToApolytoXaos> ralsina: I think I have got it what Nicolateral just asked
21:04:29 <ralsina> well, it all depends on what you mean "he will edit raw HTML". If he will edit the output, then every time you run nikola what he does is overwritten.
21:05:06 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: ok, I clearly don't :-)
21:05:17 <ToApolytoXaos> he basically wants to see whether there's a way to sync the live HTML files with his local changes so he can avoid possible conflicts and / or possible lose of critical functionality from his side
21:05:32 <Nicolateral> that's it
21:06:18 <ToApolytoXaos> well, what goes live with Nikola is what you have locally in the form of a) .txt, .rst, .mk (for markdown) etc etc and b) the plain HTML format
21:06:37 <ToApolytoXaos> so, what you can do is the following
21:07:11 <ToApolytoXaos> if you customer edits any page and added plain text in the form of paragraphs or whatsoever, all you must do is to add it to your local content by copy / paste it
21:07:20 <Nicolateral> hum, so anything i'll upload on the server from my computer will be ignored by Nikola ( wich is located on the owner computer's )
21:07:40 <Nicolateral> okay
21:08:30 <ToApolytoXaos> well, how can you expect Nikola to know what you have on your own computer when that installation is located elsewhere? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
21:08:47 <ToApolytoXaos> it's not like it's a central generator that both of you share to generate new content :/
21:09:04 <ToApolytoXaos> ralsina: is this even possible to achieve?
21:09:19 <ToApolytoXaos> like a cloud generator that users could share?
21:09:40 <ToApolytoXaos> wow...it would be nice as a service for Nikola to get self-funded!
21:10:41 <Nicolateral> Nah, i was just wandering if there was a fast way to " import " the new html files located on the server in nikolas local files
21:10:52 <Nicolateral> like a command or something ^^
21:11:41 <Nicolateral> that way my customer would'nt be afraid ( because he is to any changes of his routine ^^ )
21:11:49 <wirew0rm> Nicolateral: even if there was, you would probably loose all the "fancy" stuff you did in Dreamweaver
21:12:14 <ToApolytoXaos> wirew0rm: not entirely
21:12:54 <ToApolytoXaos> if I'm not mistaken Nicolateral, you can accomplish what you want with "nikola import_page" plugin
21:13:00 <ToApolytoXaos> ralsina: correct me if I'm wrong
21:14:04 <ralsina> A "cloud generator"? Sure, something like this: https://getnikola.com/blog/from-zero-to-nikola-in-one-minute-without-installing-anything.html
21:14:32 <ralsina> But really, it all depends on what HTML got edited.
21:14:46 <ralsina> If it's actual content, then it's better to create the content and let Nikola generate the actual site
21:15:13 <ralsina> if you are editing things like parts of the template in the generated HTML, then Nikola has no way to handle that, and it never will
21:15:39 <ralsina> In other words, Nikola is not meant to handle people touching the output it generates, and never will
21:16:56 <Nicolateral> OKay thanks anyway i'll find a way :-)
21:17:53 <Nicolateral> unfortunately it's exactly like this, my customer wants to use Nikola to regulary publish content while i'm suposed to handle the design part
21:18:04 <ralsina> Nicolateral: that is perfectly possible
21:18:28 <ralsina> Nicolateral: you just have to do it within the framework: create a theme, or create custom templates, or create custom CSS
21:18:43 <ralsina> Nicolateral: just do it on the "source" side of things, not by editing the generated site :-)
21:19:36 <ralsina> Nicolateral: for an example, read this: it shows how to do a fancy page *within* the context of how Nikola likes things https://getnikola.com/creating-a-custom-page.html
21:20:05 <ralsina> Nicolateral: or this about how to style the whole site https://getnikola.com/creating-a-theme.html
21:20:17 <Nicolateral> Not a bad idea but that would mean to create a hole new design when the website is already there, i'm just taking over the previous webmaster
21:20:49 <ralsina> Nicolateral: that 2nd link is about taking an existing design and getting it into Nikola, actually. 
21:21:00 <Nicolateral> but i'll definitely consider this option since the owner really wants to stick with Nikola ^^
21:21:04 <ralsina> Nicolateral: also, is the site currently done using Nikola?
21:21:09 <Nicolateral> yep
21:21:26 <ralsina> Nicolateral: ok, then why do a whole new design? Just iterate on the existing one
21:21:26 <Nicolateral> http://www.remouleurs.com/
21:21:48 <ralsina> If it works now, it probably is already done as a custom Nikola theme :-)
21:21:56 <ralsina> Also, nice site, didn't know it!
21:22:28 <Nicolateral> I'll take a look at the docu you sent
21:22:32 <Nicolateral> thanks a lot for the help :-)
21:23:06 <ToApolytoXaos> http://www.remouleurs.com/en/compagnie/compagnie_historique/
21:23:14 <ToApolytoXaos> 1) it throws some errors
21:23:29 <ToApolytoXaos> 2) it's not in English, even though I'm in English section
21:23:33 <Nicolateral> i know, it's not even w3c validated
21:23:34 <ralsina> yeah, that looks like some reSt bugs :-)
21:23:54 <Nicolateral> like i said i just took over the previous webmaster guy
21:23:58 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: there is probably no english version of that content
21:24:02 <Nicolateral> have a lot of work to do ^^
21:24:16 <ToApolytoXaos> overall it's a great website
21:24:54 <Nicolateral> i'll tell that to the previous guy :-p
21:24:55 <ToApolytoXaos> ralsina: you see? my dream is becoming reality! I wanted to see good looking websites that use Nikola and there you have it, here's one!
21:29:15 <Nicolateal> Anyway thanks for the help, i'll be on my way :-)
21:29:54 <Nicolateal> bye !