Logs for #nikola for 2016-09-24

03:17:11 <drini> ChrisWarrick: yes well, it's very natural for me to write in tex, and I've already got lots of material.
03:17:25 <drini> but I see your point: pandoc to html, and then make nikola import the html
03:17:36 <drini> instead of importing the tex directly with pandoc as compiler
03:18:56 <drini> although it kind of defeats the purpose of having pandoc as a compiler
07:14:40 <Guest69072> drini: no, that’s not what I meant
07:16:35 <ChrisWarrick> drini: You can use Pandoc and TeX just fine
07:20:37 <ChrisWarrick> drini: The thing is, you need to have Nikola metadata as HTML comments at the top of your post, or stored in a separate .meta file. And Pandoc ignores comments.
07:21:56 <ChrisWarrick> drini: Remove the <!-- --> tags and put your .. title: whatever    lines in yourpost.meta alongside yourpost.tex.
07:44:32 <KwBot> [nikola] Kwpolska assigned issue #2507 to Kwpolska: Set title for blog index https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2507
07:48:07 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] xuhdev pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/viN7w
07:48:07 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/master 47b3a53 Hong Xu: publication_list: Separate publications with 1em distances.
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08:02:34 <KwBot> [nikola] leonardder closed issue #2507: Set title for blog index https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2507
11:02:31 <[Tritium]> https://github.com/rtfd/recommonmark well this is interesting
11:03:19 <[Tritium]> commonmark that works with any docutils extension you want... since it is just another input format for docutils
11:07:13 <ChrisWarrick> fancy
11:37:33 <[Tritium]> I might make a plugin for this
11:41:04 <ChrisWarrick> [Tritium]: Start by creating an issue somewhere so we don’t forget about this
11:41:19 <[Tritium]> plugins or main?
11:41:36 <ChrisWarrick> let’s do main, even though it might not land in core
11:48:11 <KwBot> [nikola] tritium21 opened issue #2508: ReCommonMark Compiler https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2508
11:49:45 <ChrisWarrick> thanks
11:49:57 <[Tritium]> I had to indent the examples due to showing markdown syntax >.>
12:27:59 <RocketLL> Umm, hi
12:28:20 <RocketLL> So a while ago I was having trouble with https for bootswatch, so I edited a few files to change it to http.
12:28:32 <RocketLL> And now I can't remember which file it is...
12:28:35 <RocketLL> Any help?
13:06:10 <[Tritium]> 2 months ago i pushed a PR to add a feature to nikola.  I am just now getting around to removing my hack to use the feature i pushed.  /lazy
13:52:03 <ralsina> RocketLL: you could always compare them to what comes with Nikola
13:52:45 <RocketLL> Nvm, figured everything out.
13:52:49 <ralsina> [Tritium]: if that's even slifghtly performant, I say we dump python markdown for it
13:52:52 <RocketLL> Got https going now!
13:52:57 <ralsina> Python Markdown is crazy slow
13:53:02 <ralsina> RocketLL: cool :-)
13:54:50 <[Tritium]> There are tons of performant markdown compilers...
13:55:20 <ralsina> [Tritium]: Misaka is ~10x faster than regular markdown
13:55:35 * ralsina goes run that benchmark just to check that
13:56:02 <[Tritium]> is that the one that wraps the library once named upskirt?
13:56:09 <ralsina> I *think* so
13:58:06 <ralsina> I guess there goes my goal to stop using software made by assholes
13:58:23 * ralsina is generalizing a bit too quickly
13:58:51 <[Tritium]> You have to roll back all my patches...
13:58:59 <ralsina> hahaha
13:59:15 <ralsina> I know it's an impossible dream
14:00:19 <ralsina> Test bed: A site with 1000 copies of our theming.txt converted to markdown
14:00:35 <ralsina> 1000 copies in reSt take ~1 minute in my machine
14:00:50 <[Tritium]> control test
14:01:00 <ToApolytoXaos> ralsina: that's the test you run the other day when I asked for benchmarks for over 1000 items?
14:01:00 <ralsina> 1000 copies in misaka take ~30 seconds (makes sense, it's C, markdown is simpler)
14:01:06 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: yep
14:01:09 <ToApolytoXaos> cool
14:01:24 <ralsina> I am now running it on python markdown. I never let it finish before :-P
14:01:41 <ralsina> It's taking ~1 second per file :-(
14:02:05 <ToApolytoXaos> the only logical explanation for being so slow would be that it opens the file, parses it, and close it; go back to step 1 and repeat.
14:02:10 <ToApolytoXaos> that's the concept IMHO
14:02:12 <ralsina> Only reason I can think of to keep this thing is that we have some extensions enabled and someone else may have others
14:02:21 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: well, they are 1000 copies, everyone should do that
14:02:59 <[Tritium]> ralsina: recommonmark will be slower than docutils, obviously
14:03:10 <ralsina> [Tritium]: why?
14:03:35 <[Tritium]> ralsina: it does everything that docutils does + some.
14:03:37 <ralsina> Actually, I had not tried commonmark, I should do that, when this ends :-)
14:03:44 <ralsina> [Tritium]: no, it's not parsing reSt
14:03:50 <[Tritium]> true
14:03:53 <ralsina> [Tritium]: which is a pretty fucked up parser, too
14:04:15 <[Tritium]> I suspect that recommonmark will be on par or slightly slower than rst, but i will let you test
14:05:11 <ralsina> Well, I'd need a plugin to test that
14:05:16 <ralsina> is there one? ;-)
14:05:34 <[Tritium]> itwilltakemetimetowritethatadayortwo
14:15:33 <ralsina> [Tritium]: no rush
14:51:38 <ralsina> So, 1000 markdown posts using markdown python: 29m53.728s
14:52:50 <ralsina> our commonmark compiler is broken :-(
14:53:52 <ralsina> with misaka: 23 seconds
14:54:02 <ralsina> It's 65x faster
14:58:07 <ralsina> commonmark: 1:15 minutes
14:58:21 <ralsina> so it's 20 times faster than markdown
14:59:55 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/viAI2
14:59:55 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/master 6478bac Roberto Alsina: Update commonmark.plugin
15:00:35 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/viAIV
15:00:35 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/master abadf8a Roberto Alsina: Make it work with CommonMark 0.7.2
15:03:24 <ToApolytoXaos> O.o
15:03:26 <ToApolytoXaos> WHAT?!
15:04:52 <ralsina> mistune (never heard of it before today) builds the same site in 34 seconds, so only 50% slower than misaka
15:05:15 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] getnikola/plugins#961 (master - 6478bac : Roberto Alsina): The build has errored.
15:05:15 <[Tritium]> i think that wraps the same c lib
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15:06:32 <ralsina> mistune is pure python
15:06:42 <ralsina> which makes it 10x more impressive :-)
15:07:23 <[Tritium]> uh...
15:07:27 <[Tritium]> cython....
15:07:58 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] getnikola/plugins#962 (master - abadf8a : Roberto Alsina): The build passed.
15:07:59 <ralsina> have not seen the source code but it says "pure python", usually that means no cython
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15:08:27 <[Tritium]> apparently to use the cython parts you need to manually install cython
15:09:54 <ToApolytoXaos> is there any link to see the mistune code?
15:10:14 <[Tritium]> https://github.com/lepture/mistune/blob/master/mistune.py
15:10:25 <ToApolytoXaos> thank you [Tritium] 
15:10:42 <[Tritium]> the setup.py has plenty of cython stuff, but im not seeing cython files...
15:11:13 <[Tritium]> it just cythonized mistuen.py
15:12:15 <ToApolytoXaos> bloody hell, full of regex magic!
15:12:48 <[Tritium]> regexes are fast ...
15:13:46 <[Tritium]> and in cython, they probably compile down to some c code or something to make them faster
15:14:29 <ToApolytoXaos> "Mistune can be faster, if you compile in cython"
15:14:38 <ToApolytoXaos> *with
15:14:50 <[Tritium]> so swapping markdown for (re)commonmark is probably a good idea
15:15:07 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/viALR
15:15:07 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/master 7bf1f8b Roberto Alsina: Add Mistune compiler
15:15:07 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/master 994cd2e Roberto Alsina: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/getnikola/plugins
15:18:05 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/viALM
15:18:05 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/master 34c3b9a Roberto Alsina: Add Mistune compiler
15:18:22 * ralsina tries with the cython magic sauce
15:18:42 <ralsina> Oh, I do have cython installed, no idea if it was being used or not
15:19:02 * ToApolytoXaos anxiously waits for results!
15:19:03 <[Tritium]> if it was available at install time, it probably was
15:19:22 <[Tritium]> Which is still impressivly fast
15:19:34 <ralsina> apparently not, I have a regular mistune.py
15:19:42 <ralsina> cython would produce a .so
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15:20:18 <ralsina> most of the compilers in the plugins repo don't support shortcodes
15:20:22 <ralsina> I really should fix that
15:20:50 <[Tritium]> OR!  you can solve all problems with another layer of abstraction!
15:21:14 <ralsina> sadly, there are enough different special cases on how to call compilers that it's not practical :-)
15:21:33 <[Tritium]> ...I have been writing .NET code for a week and I am already jumping to "yeah, just throw another interface on the fire"
15:21:39 <ralsina> hehe
15:21:58 <[Tritium]> that is the right thing to do...in c#
15:22:31 <ralsina> I could make the internal API support shortcodes better, but then I have to rewrute all the freaking compilers
15:24:32 <ToApolytoXaos> what are the chances to break backward compatibility in case you do such thing ralsina?
15:24:48 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: 100%
15:24:53 <ToApolytoXaos> then don't do it
15:24:56 <ToApolytoXaos> as simple as that
15:24:57 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: I hate breaking it
15:25:21 <ralsina> I think it would break everyone's installed compiler plugins, and then force a re-download
15:25:32 <ralsina> I hate forcing people to change their site/
15:25:38 <ToApolytoXaos> instead of doing such thing, you could simply fork it and develop a new project based on it.
15:26:02 <[Tritium]> Maybe for Nikola 10 - RestructuredCode edition
15:26:21 <ralsina> Cython makes mistune ~20% faster still
15:26:49 <[Tritium]> So about 60 times faster than Markdown
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15:27:06 * [Tritium] is here still advocating 30 times faster >.>
15:29:19 <[Tritium]> welp, spent the day working on my local plugins... didnt actually get a damn post written like i wanted to
15:29:35 <KwBot> [plugins] ralsina opened issue #172: Make all compilers support shortcodes https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/issues/172
15:29:37 <[Tritium]> Its like a carpenter who enjoys sharpening his tools more than cutting wood
15:31:47 <ralsina> hmmm ... we have a kramdown plugin but kramdown.org seems to be dead
15:32:01 <ralsina> ah, it moved
15:32:42 <[Tritium]> ...how many markdown compilers are there for nikola?
15:33:08 <[Tritium]> (...and RST is still the default, which i find ammusing for some reason)
15:33:21 <ralsina> like, 6?
15:33:28 <ralsina> I'd have to count them :-)
15:33:28 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/viAtT
15:33:28 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/master 4c1b08e Roberto Alsina: Update README.md
15:33:43 <[Tritium]> all compiling a slightly different version of markdown
15:34:00 <ralsina> pffft kramdown claims to be the fastest ruby markdown, and it's about as fast as python-markdown :-P
15:34:10 <ralsina> [Tritium]: that's the reason why there are so many compilers
15:34:48 <[Tritium]> http://ericholscher.com/blog/2016/mar/15/dont-use-markdown-for-technical-docs/ and the reason for this post.  It should be noted he rails against markdown here, but still released the markdown compiler i want in nikola :D
15:35:14 <ralsina> which one is it?
15:35:58 <ralsina> ah, the one mentioned earlier
15:36:06 <ralsina> sorry, I am a bit fuzzy today :-)
15:38:12 <ralsina> I should write something about this
15:43:25 <ralsina> so, pandoc, markdown, commonmark, mistune, kramdown, misaka, 6.
15:45:12 <ToApolytoXaos> lol...I thought "so" was an engine too!
15:45:21 <ralsina> haha
15:45:33 <ToApolytoXaos> and "6" too
15:45:44 <ralsina> Nikola development sure has gone in weird directions over time
15:45:50 <ToApolytoXaos> next time ralsina enclose them inside a list comprehension
15:46:09 <ralsina> markdowns=[pandoc, markdown, commonmark, mistune, kramdown, misaka]
15:46:16 <ToApolytoXaos> that's more like it!
15:46:18 <ralsina> len(markdowns) == 6
15:46:42 <ralsina> pandoc is slowish, 90 seconds or so
15:47:12 <ToApolytoXaos> for building or converting files?
15:47:46 <ralsina> building things out of markdown
15:48:05 <ralsina> of course we are starting a pandoc process for each file, so that's slow
15:50:21 <[Tritium]> Its that process starting time
15:50:45 <ToApolytoXaos> to be honest with you ralsina, I have converted around 20 posts from HTML to reST using a tiny hack-ish command and took around a second only
15:51:30 <ToApolytoXaos> I wonder how much time it would take for doing so with 1000 posts.
15:51:32 <[Tritium]> I bet if you went through the trouble of updating libpandoc (c->haskal ffi), then wrapped that in cffi or a c-ext it would be faster
15:51:45 <[Tritium]> no, i am not doing this.  I couldnt get it to work for my project
15:51:57 <ralsina> hey, looks like someone already did
15:52:08 <[Tritium]> pypandoc?
15:52:19 <[Tritium]> (that uses subprocess)
15:53:43 <ralsina> I thought pyandoc was lib-based but it's a wrapper too
15:54:27 * ralsina gets cranking on the shortcodes thing 
16:12:47 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina created support-shortcodes (+2 new commits): https://git.io/viAq7
16:12:47 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes 05885b6 Roberto Alsina: Shortcodes for bbcode
16:12:47 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes 2c9e7df Roberto Alsina: shortcode support for commonmark
16:19:09 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina opened pull request #173: [WIP] Support shortcodes (master...support-shortcodes) https://git.io/viAme
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16:23:52 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to support-shortcodes: https://git.io/viAml
16:23:52 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes 3067694 Roberto Alsina: shortcodes for markmin
16:31:41 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] getnikola/plugins#968 (support-shortcodes - 3067694 : Roberto Alsina): The build was broken.
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16:34:22 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to support-shortcodes: https://git.io/viAm9
16:34:22 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes 651995c Roberto Alsina: Shortcode support for mediawiki compiler
16:38:29 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to support-shortcodes: https://git.io/viAmj
16:38:29 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes 0c5f6a4 Roberto Alsina: Shortcode support for mistune
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16:52:02 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to support-shortcodes: https://git.io/viAYw
16:52:02 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes d363b7c Roberto Alsina: Shortcodes for textile compiler
16:56:53 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] getnikola/plugins#974 (support-shortcodes - d363b7c : Roberto Alsina): The build is still failing.
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17:02:19 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 2 new commits to support-shortcodes: https://git.io/viAOs
17:02:19 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes 45ebbf5 Roberto Alsina: Shortcode support for orgmode compiler
17:02:19 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes 1183dc0 Roberto Alsina: Shortcode support for asciidoc compiler
17:07:12 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 2 new commits to support-shortcodes: https://git.io/viAOR
17:07:12 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes 811cf2b Roberto Alsina: Shortcode support for kramdown
17:07:12 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes ece4030 Roberto Alsina: Shortcode support for the misaka plugin
17:09:28 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] getnikola/plugins#976 (support-shortcodes - 1183dc0 : Roberto Alsina): The build is still failing.
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17:13:26 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to support-shortcodes: https://git.io/viAOi
17:13:26 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes da1da2a Roberto Alsina: Shortcode support for txt2tags
17:17:00 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to support-shortcodes: https://git.io/viAOH
17:17:00 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes bca4336 Roberto Alsina: Shortcode support for txt2tags
17:18:55 <KwBot> [plugins] ralsina closed issue #172: Make all compilers support shortcodes https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/issues/172
17:19:18 <KwBot> [plugins] ralsina reopened issue #172: Make all compilers support shortcodes https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/issues/172
17:20:36 <KwBot> [plugins] ralsina closed issue #172: Make all compilers support shortcodes https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/issues/172
17:20:41 <KwBot> [plugins] ralsina reopened issue #172: Make all compilers support shortcodes https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/issues/172
17:21:58 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] getnikola/plugins#982 (support-shortcodes - bca4336 : Roberto Alsina): The build is still failing.
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17:22:58 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to support-shortcodes: https://git.io/viA3t
17:22:59 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes d6a0e12 Roberto Alsina: easier install
17:23:19 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to support-shortcodes: https://git.io/viA3Y
17:23:19 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes 2c74b16 Roberto Alsina: notes
17:24:35 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] getnikola/plugins#984 (support-shortcodes - d6a0e12 : Roberto Alsina): The build has errored.
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17:26:21 <ndim> I'd like to keep my existing URL scheme for blog posts http://n-dimensional.de/blog/2015/05/16/gemusekuchen/ (and place archives at http://n-dimensional.de/blog/2015/ - how would I do that with Nikola?
17:26:46 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] getnikola/plugins#986 (support-shortcodes - 2c74b16 : Roberto Alsina): The build has errored.
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17:27:38 <ChrisWarrick> ndim: Quite simply.
17:28:00 <ChrisWarrick> ndim: In conf.py, set POSTS to have "blog" as the second element of each tuple
17:28:10 <ndim> ChrisWarrick: Yepp.
17:28:21 <ndim> That gives me http://n-dimensional.de/blog/gemusekuchen/
17:28:40 <ChrisWarrick> And then: mkdir -p posts/2015/05/16; mv posts/gemusekuchen.* posts/2015/05/16/
17:28:54 <ChrisWarrick> And adjust the necessary setting for archive path.
17:28:56 <ndim> OK, so I have to place every post in the subdirs.
17:29:43 <ChrisWarrick> yes. Nikola won’t make subdirectories automatically for you. (Writing a simple script to do it for your imported posts shouldn’t be hard. If migrating from WordPress, make sure you have no REDIRECTIONS for those URLs)
17:29:45 <ndim> I was hoping for something which uses the `date` metainfo
17:30:00 <ndim> Migrating from Jekyll/Octopress.
17:30:09 <ChrisWarrick> sorry, we don’t automate that
17:30:14 <ChrisWarrick> should be simple enough to do yourself though
17:32:04 <ndim> I expect to write a bunch of plugins for my site anyway, but I am not sure Nikola can nicely manage source files like 2015-05-16-foo.md turning into 2015/05/16/foo/index.html and have not found the places where I would have to hook into.
17:34:28 <ndim> I need a plugin to draw hypercube imagess, one to generate favicon bitmaps from an SVG file, and I am really looking forward to have doit do the stupid work.
17:35:19 <ndim> Also I am looking forward to the multilingual site features.
17:37:47 <ndim> doit+multilingual made me choose Nikola over Pelican. Pelican's way of configuring FOO_URL and FOO_SAVE_AS with year and slug and whatever data is really nice, but builtin multi language site and proper dependencies with doit are the kicker.
17:37:54 <ndim> BTW... speaking of dependencies.
17:40:02 <ndim> When I run `nikola build`, nikola generates all files which need changing and updates `output/` such that the updated files are now in `output`. However, it appears that nikola does not (cannot?) remove files in `output/` which it does not generate any more?
17:40:51 <ndim> So if I change the slug on some page.md or post.rst, the old files still appear to lurk around in `output/` and will never be updated again.
17:41:20 <ndim> Is that impression correct, or can nikola be made to remove files it would not generate?
17:51:11 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to support-shortcodes: https://git.io/viAsC
17:51:11 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/support-shortcodes 090cce2 Roberto Alsina: fix dep
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17:57:34 <ChrisWarrick> ndim: Nikola can remove old files on request: nikola check -f --clean-files  (or use nikola orphans and pipe to xargs)
18:02:26 <ChrisWarrick> ndim: As for replacing dashes with slashes: this could require changes to Nikola core, or you would have to rewrite every Post object yourself. You could try using FILE_METADATA_REGEXP to have the date in the post path only, perhaps
18:09:48 <ndim> OK, so I can run a regular "nikola check -f --cleanfiles" together with "nikola build" and all is well on the production box.
18:10:11 <ndim> And changing Nikola core is not what I want to do just to get started. I'll stick to the subdirectories, then.
18:10:17 <ndim> ChrisWarrick: Thank you so much.
18:10:39 <ChrisWarrick> you're welcome
18:26:44 <[Tritium]> You could probably copy new_post to your site's plugins directory and hack it so new posts are created in /something/year/month/day/... *ponders*
18:27:48 <[Tritium]> this does come up from time to time... 
18:48:54 <ChrisWarrick> KwBot: ping
18:48:54 <KwBot> ChrisWarrick: pong
18:52:03 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] getnikola/plugins#990 (support-shortcodes - ac4c0ef : Roberto Alsina): The build was fixed.
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18:56:09 <KwBot> [plugins] ralsina closed issue #172: Make all compilers support shortcodes https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/issues/172
18:56:28 <KwBot> [plugins] ralsina reopened issue #172: Make all compilers support shortcodes https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/issues/172
20:03:22 <KwBot> [nikola] leonardder opened issue #2509: Make "Toggle navigation" button in bootstrap theme translatable https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2509
21:09:24 <ToApolytoXaos> is anyone else having problems with FreeNode connectivity?
21:14:40 <ndim> a bit
21:17:55 <ToApolytoXaos> I had to change how many servers to find one that could verify my registered nick
21:20:45 <ralsina_> It was down for me for a bit
21:32:13 <ToApolytoXaos> it was a violent disconnection without the slightest warning or whatsoever
21:32:19 <ToApolytoXaos> just...boom, you are out!
21:47:46 <ToApolytoXaos> ralsina_: the latest issue reported has an interesting bug I haven't noticed until I have resized both of my browsers to validate the problem. https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2509
22:34:16 <KwBot> [plugins] ralsina closed issue #166: Sass plugin: template inheritance? https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/issues/166
22:41:04 <KwBot> [plugins] xuhdev opened issue #174: Plugin development: add API to add additional css styles? https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/issues/174
22:43:45 <KwBot> [nikola] ralsina closed issue #2509: Make "Toggle navigation" button in bootstrap theme translatable https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2509
22:46:57 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] getnikola/plugins#993 (master - f1deb54 : Roberto Alsina): The build passed.
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22:47:48 <KwBot> [nikola] ralsina closed issue #2506: Creating .html files in the posts directory breaks the build process https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2506
22:49:02 -travis-ci:#nikola- getnikola/nikola#7595 (master - b7df794 : Roberto Alsina): The build was broken.
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22:55:17 <KwBot> [nikola] ralsina closed issue #2505: Improve verbose output for build process https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2505
22:55:31 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/viAE3
22:55:31 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/master 9b24490 Roberto Alsina: Fix #2505
23:00:09 <ralsina_> ToApolytoXaos: what would the bug be?
23:00:37 -travis-ci:#nikola- getnikola/nikola#7596 (master - 9b24490 : Roberto Alsina): The build is still failing.
23:00:38 -travis-ci:#nikola- Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/compare/b7df7949ba7d...9b24490c3366
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23:00:56 <ToApolytoXaos> the button with three hashes (I forget its name), if you press it, it keeps the navigation menu dropped
23:01:06 <ToApolytoXaos> it you press it again, it doesn't toggle
23:01:14 <ToApolytoXaos> it stays collapsed
23:04:58 <ralsina_> Hmmm
23:05:00 * ralsina_ checks
23:05:18 <ToApolytoXaos> something's wrong with my theme. I don't have the following line inside my base.tmpl: <span class="sr-only">Toggle navigation</span>
23:05:56 <ralsina_> ToApolytoXaos: works on ralsina.me but then again I have not redeployed that in a year or two
23:06:44 <ToApolytoXaos> I will switch to monospace theme and uninstall bootstrap3, because things are really weird on my side
23:07:29 <ToApolytoXaos> lol what the hell man...
23:07:38 <ToApolytoXaos> submenus don't work with monospace
23:07:54 <ralsina_> ToApolytoXaos: wait a sec until I unbreak master and I'll try with a fresh site
23:08:03 <ToApolytoXaos> alright mate
23:08:03 <ralsina_> or, if it happens to you, report a bug, we'll get to it
23:08:25 <ToApolytoXaos> no worries
23:09:58 <ralsina_> Check http://staticman-demo.netlify.com/ whch is a couple of weeks old, it seems to work there (using chrome)
23:10:09 <ToApolytoXaos> let me see
23:10:30 <ToApolytoXaos> yeah, this one works
23:10:37 <ToApolytoXaos> let me remove mine then
23:11:12 <ralsina_> Sigh, I am in an ugly mood today :-(
23:11:28 <ralsina_> Turns out if I don't want to die, I can't eat anything I like anymore, ever
23:12:09 <ToApolytoXaos> what the heck is wrong with you?
23:12:35 <ToApolytoXaos> why can't you eat anything?
23:12:41 <ralsina_> not anything I like
23:12:50 <ToApolytoXaos> the reasons if I may ask?
23:12:52 <ralsina_> high blood pressure and a family history of diabetes
23:12:58 <ralsina_> so, no salt, no sugar
23:13:09 <ToApolytoXaos> you sound like my mother -_-
23:13:10 <ralsina_> also, overweight, so I can eat crap, and not a lot of it
23:13:31 <ToApolytoXaos> the best exercise of all: walking long distances
23:13:45 <ralsina_> I do, have done for ages
23:13:49 <ralsina_> is not enough
23:14:01 <ToApolytoXaos> interesting
23:14:07 <ToApolytoXaos> lifting weights?
23:14:09 <ralsina_> Basically I have fucked up genes
23:14:19 <ToApolytoXaos> your genes are just fine
23:14:24 <ralsina_> no, they are not
23:14:28 <ToApolytoXaos> lol if you say so
23:14:41 <ralsina_> dude, both diseases are hereditary
23:14:44 <prxq> it can happen
23:14:57 <ToApolytoXaos> well excuse me that runs in my family too
23:15:05 <ToApolytoXaos> both blood pressure and diabetes
23:15:18 <ralsina_> my father was paralized for 25 years because of his high BP, so I have taken reasonable care of myself, did not work
23:15:39 <ralsina_> so now, this
23:15:48 <ToApolytoXaos> what about blood donation? doesn't help a bit?
23:15:49 <prxq> ralsina_: that sucks, twice
23:16:07 -travis-ci:#nikola- getnikola/nikola#7597 (master - 178f7c6 : Roberto Alsina): The build is still failing.
23:16:08 <ralsina_> anyway, I think I'll get the fuck out of here, to bed and stop spreading bad vibes
23:16:08 -travis-ci:#nikola- Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/compare/9b24490c3366...178f7c6d90a5
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23:16:25 <ToApolytoXaos> you need to relax mate
23:16:30 * prxq sends ralsina_ some good vibes
23:16:32 <ralsina_> I expect I'll be my sunny self back in a while
23:16:42 <ToApolytoXaos> of course you will :)
23:20:10 <ToApolytoXaos> OK, my system got fucked badly
23:20:22 <ToApolytoXaos> before I uninstalled bootstrap3, I switched to monospace; it worked just fine
23:20:38 <ToApolytoXaos> I uninstalled bootstrap3 and started throwing errors all over the palce
23:20:39 <ToApolytoXaos> *place
23:21:25 <ralsina_> why did you uninstall bootstrap3? It's part of the system
23:21:32 <ralsina_> you should not be *able* to uninstall it
23:21:36 <prxq> ppl, when you use nikola, you all start by doing a 'source bin/activate'?
23:21:37 <ToApolytoXaos> well, I did
23:21:53 <ralsina_> prxq: I use virtualenvwrapper, so it's just "workon nikola"
23:21:55 <ToApolytoXaos> prxq: I use virtualenvwrapper
23:22:00 <ToApolytoXaos> +1 ralsina_ 
23:22:06 <ralsina_> ToApolytoXaos: eek, I think you found a bug
23:22:09 <prxq> I see.
23:22:29 <ToApolytoXaos> what am I supposed to do now ralsina_ ? lol
23:22:34 <ToApolytoXaos> I can't use my system!
23:22:36 <ralsina_> ToApolytoXaos: reinstall nikola
23:22:43 <ralsina_> on top of the current installation
23:22:49 <ToApolytoXaos> you are joking -_-
23:23:23 <KwBot> [nikola] ralsina opened issue #2510: Uninstalling builtin themes should fail (it doesn't) https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2510
23:23:38 <KwBot> [nikola] ralsina assigned issue #2510 to ralsina: Uninstalling builtin themes should fail (it doesn't) https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2510
23:28:31 <ToApolytoXaos> ralsina_: http://pastebin.com/1rZzr7Pc
23:28:35 <KwBot> [nikola] ralsina closed issue #2510: Uninstalling builtin themes should fail (it doesn't) https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2510
23:28:38 <ToApolytoXaos> I got myself confused
23:28:48 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/viAEj
23:28:48 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/master 54ffc11 Roberto Alsina: fix #2510
23:29:14 <ralsina_> Nikola really really doesn't want you to remove builtin themes
23:29:35 <ToApolytoXaos> lol
23:29:42 <ralsina_> ToApolytoXaos: pip install nikola
23:29:55 <ralsina_> you may need to add a --force there
23:30:17 <ToApolytoXaos> I have already done this: pip install --upgrade --no-deps --force-reinstall Nikola
23:32:40 <ToApolytoXaos> I guess I caused a chaotic problem *after* I manually deleted the bootstrap from inside themes
23:32:52 <ToApolytoXaos> I guess I could copy it from other projects and resolve the issue
23:33:22 <ralsina_> yeah, it's just a folder
23:33:29 -travis-ci:#nikola- getnikola/nikola#7598 (master - 54ffc11 : Roberto Alsina): The build is still failing.
23:33:30 -travis-ci:#nikola- Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/compare/178f7c6d90a5...54ffc11184ac
23:33:30 -travis-ci:#nikola- Build details: https://travis-ci.org/getnikola/nikola/builds/162500745
23:34:01 <ToApolytoXaos> ralsina_: well I'll be damned...
23:34:14 <ToApolytoXaos> there is no such folder named "themes" in other projects
23:34:28 <ToApolytoXaos> what's going on here?
23:34:56 <ralsina_> ToApolytoXaos: bootstrap3 comes from the nikola repo
23:34:59 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/viAuJ
23:34:59 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/master dda718c Roberto Alsina: lint
23:35:03 <ToApolytoXaos> do you still have the import_blogger project you created using my dump xml file ralsina_ ?
23:35:07 <ralsina_> it's supposed to be in nikola/data/themes/bootstrap3
23:35:25 <ralsina_> ToApolytoXaos: that's the problem, you deleted a chunk of nikola's source code :-D
23:35:35 <ToApolytoXaos> you lost me
23:35:49 <ralsina_> bootstrap3 is not in your site, it comes with nikola
23:36:04 <ToApolytoXaos> you must be referring at $HOME/.virtualenvs/ package
23:36:09 <ralsina_> yes
23:36:16 <ralsina_> look for bootstrap3-jinja there
23:36:30 <ralsina_> you would have had a bootstrap3 there too. Before this..
23:36:44 <ToApolytoXaos> yeah, everything is in there
23:36:53 <ToApolytoXaos> the folder I deleted was from the generated project of mne
23:36:56 <ToApolytoXaos> *mine
23:37:36 <ToApolytoXaos> if you have the import_blogger demo project you tested the other way, would be really helpful
23:37:48 <ToApolytoXaos> I could tell you the steps to reproduce this
23:39:11 <ralsina_> I probably don't
23:39:19 <ralsina_> I do those things in /tmp which is deleted on reboot
23:39:23 -travis-ci:#nikola- getnikola/nikola#7599 (master - dda718c : Roberto Alsina): The build was fixed.
23:39:24 -travis-ci:#nikola- Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/compare/54ffc11184ac...dda718cf52cd
23:39:24 <ToApolytoXaos> also, an off-topic hint about blood pressure: garlic and onions...freaking raw!
23:39:24 -travis-ci:#nikola- Build details: https://travis-ci.org/getnikola/nikola/builds/162501273
23:40:02 <ralsina_> ToApolytoXaos: ok, let's go from the top. Do you have a bootstrap3 folder in your Nikola?
23:40:32 <ToApolytoXaos> when you say Nikola, are you referring at the package inside $HOME/.virtualenvs/ ?
23:40:43 <ToApolytoXaos> if yes, yes I have; all 4 of them
23:40:44 <ralsina_> yes
23:41:04 <ToApolytoXaos> base, base-jinja, bootstrap3, bootstrap3-jinja
23:41:08 <ralsina_> does it have a bootstrap3/templates/base.tmpl and so on
23:41:14 <ralsina_> ?
23:41:59 <ToApolytoXaos> it seems so
23:42:05 <ralsina_> ok, then you have bootstrap3
23:42:16 <ralsina_> you should be able to use monospace (or bootstrap3) 
23:42:43 <ToApolytoXaos> is there a way to debug this?
23:42:49 <ToApolytoXaos> I suck with Python debugging process
23:43:07 <ralsina_> Debug what? :-)
23:43:34 <ToApolytoXaos> the whole loading procedure
23:43:41 <ralsina_> What is not working?
23:43:45 <ToApolytoXaos> nikola list
23:43:45 <ToApolytoXaos> [2016-09-24T23:43:10Z] WARNING: Nikola: Cannot load theme "monospace", using 'bootstrap3' instead.
23:44:00 <ToApolytoXaos> the list is there of course, but I get warnings with every single command I type
23:44:05 <ralsina_> do you have a themes/monospace ?
23:44:11 <ToApolytoXaos> yes
23:44:26 <ralsina_> can you remove it and reinstall the theme? It had failed before
23:44:32 <ToApolytoXaos> and I have had a bootstrap next to it
23:44:45 <ralsina_> remove the bootstrap too.
23:45:35 <ralsina_> remove themes/ if you have nothing there you care about
23:45:51 <ToApolytoXaos> OK, uninstalled it and reinstalled it and warning is gone
23:46:16 <ralsina_> cool
23:46:34 <ralsina_> when the installation of monospace failed, after you removed bootstrap3, it left a broken theme there
23:46:35 <ToApolytoXaos> so, if I switch flag back to bootstrap3, won't break again?
23:46:48 <ralsina_> probably themes/monospace and themes/bootstrap3 were empty folders
23:46:55 <ralsina_> or almost
23:47:08 <ToApolytoXaos> oh it works now!
23:47:12 <ralsina_> cool
23:47:35 <ToApolytoXaos> I nearly poop my pants lol
23:48:56 <ToApolytoXaos> you know ralsina_, for years I was suffering with GERD and I was taking all these pills. The most innocent one, omeprazole was the one that nearly killed me
23:49:16 <ralsina_> GERD?
23:49:16 <ToApolytoXaos> during summer time I was wearing long sleeve T-shirt
23:49:46 <ToApolytoXaos> yes this son of a ... here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastroesophageal_reflux_disease
23:49:54 <ToApolytoXaos> I could not eat anything
23:49:56 <ralsina_> Ah, I had that for a while
23:50:18 <ToApolytoXaos> I was living with a mag of food on a 2-day basis
23:50:26 <ralsina_> my previous experience on crappy superlimited diet. But that was just for a month :-P
23:50:29 <ToApolytoXaos> I would eat today and 2 days later I would feel hungry
23:50:42 <ToApolytoXaos> I couldn't do anything
23:50:48 <ToApolytoXaos> then I run a thorough investigation
23:51:19 <ToApolytoXaos> I have realized that, those little "innocent" pills were the ones that nearly killed me with sever stomach infection
23:51:35 <ToApolytoXaos> it had nearly stopped my stomach from producing gastric acid
23:51:54 <ralsina_> omeprazol is not something you want to take for long periods
23:52:04 <ralsina_> For one, it causes cancer
23:52:13 <ToApolytoXaos> I know, tell that to smart-ass doctors
23:52:43 <ralsina_> well , back then, mine told me "you can't use this more than a week or so"
23:53:16 <ToApolytoXaos> I even had to do a Gastroscopy to see what the hell was going on
23:53:18 <ralsina_> I had to go on a diet that was basically rice (white, no condiments) and squash
23:53:28 <ToApolytoXaos> something like that...
23:53:45 <ToApolytoXaos> with boiled rice, boiled chicken breast
23:53:49 <ToApolytoXaos> and such things
23:53:59 <ralsina_> drink nothing but water, nio spices, no meat, no leafy vegetables, no legume, no fruits other than bananas
23:54:06 <ralsina_> yep, lamest diet ever
23:54:07 <ToApolytoXaos> I feel you bro, I feel you.
23:54:17 <ToApolytoXaos> then this passing February it hit me
23:54:23 <ToApolytoXaos> I couldn't take it anymore
23:54:30 <ralsina_> I was on that diet for a month, luckily the gastritis stopped :-)
23:54:32 <ToApolytoXaos> I have decided to take drastic measures
23:54:56 <ToApolytoXaos> I have changed my nutrition habits, my sleeping hours, my stress factors
23:55:05 <ToApolytoXaos> and I stopped taking this stupid pill
23:55:15 <ToApolytoXaos> for the first month...oh boy!
23:55:23 <ToApolytoXaos> it would fight back like a real beast
23:55:32 <ToApolytoXaos> I had lava eruptions inside my stomach
23:55:46 <ToApolytoXaos> I wanted to vomit from the excessive pain
23:56:00 <ToApolytoXaos> I was hitting the wall with all my power to mild the pain I was feeling
23:56:06 <ToApolytoXaos> it fought me for a month
23:56:08 <ralsina_> the idea of omeprazol for reflux is that you take it the 1st week to survive until the diet works
23:56:20 <ToApolytoXaos> that's plain bullshit
23:56:37 <ralsina_> hey, it's what my doctor made me do :-)
23:57:08 <ToApolytoXaos> they basically implant bacteria inside your stomach in order to cause other issues so doctors can co-relate it to something completely new
23:57:55 <ToApolytoXaos> after I lived with Greek yogurt diet, fruits, chicken breast, and honey, I became better
23:58:02 <ToApolytoXaos> I wasn't feeling cold anymore
23:58:11 <ToApolytoXaos> actually I have discovered was sweating is!
23:58:17 <ToApolytoXaos> for the first time in my adult life!
23:58:36 <ToApolytoXaos> at first I thought was my blood pressure
23:58:37 <ToApolytoXaos> I checked it
23:58:45 <ToApolytoXaos> 12 to 8
23:58:49 <ToApolytoXaos> was more than nice
23:59:01 <ToApolytoXaos> heart bits 67
23:59:14 <ToApolytoXaos> ...I was swimming in sweat lol