Logs for #nikola for 2015-06-04

07:39:58 <ChrisWarrick> Aeyoun: no support I’m aware of
08:24:20 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vIeLx
08:24:20 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/master 803cbb6 Chris Warrick: str.rsplit() cannot use kwargs in py2k...
08:25:24 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska reopened pull request #1775: [requires.io] dependency update on master branch (master...requires-io-master) http://git.io/vkPMj
08:25:53 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to requires-io-master: http://git.io/vIetB
08:25:53 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/requires-io-master 319cfb8 requires.io: [requires.io] dependency update
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11:53:38 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vIvk5
11:53:38 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/master f7ae41a Chris Warrick: fix #1784 -- fix listings/index.html path on Windows
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12:33:02 <ralsina> Aeyoun: series plugin
12:33:29 <ralsina> Aeyoun: although that's really "relate a bunch of posts" not "paginate a post"
12:34:24 <ralsina> Aeyoun: you could do it via JS tho
12:35:47 <Aeyoun> don’t like to alter content with JS.
12:36:00 <Aeyoun> cSS pagination never really went anywhere.
12:36:46 <Aeyoun> was considering something like <!-- PAGE_BREAK --> and altering slugs, but … hm. unsure. think I’ll restructure this ass-long post of mine instead.
12:37:34 <ralsina> well, it's not hiding
12:37:43 <ralsina> sorry, not modifying, just hiding/showing
12:37:54 <ralsina> put the pages in divs, then paginate through them
12:39:32 <ralsina> In fact, having something that finds those comments and wraps the chunks in divs and adds a paginator... not a horrible idea for a feature
12:40:26 <ralsina> Could even be implemented as a HTML filter
12:40:43 <ralsina> actually, no. Maybe we need a post.text() filters feature
12:43:50 <Aeyoun> ralsina: my motifvation for splitting into multiple pages is the unspeakable evil. (more page views.) thought at 12 000 words, I feel justified in splitting it in two pages.
12:45:10 <ralsina> If you really want to, Id go with two divs, 2nd one set to display:none and some #page-2 like thing
12:45:30 <ChrisWarrick> (set to display:none in JS only)
12:45:46 <ChrisWarrick> Aeyoun: 12k words?  totally justified
12:46:02 <ChrisWarrick> in other news, Windows is painfully slow.
12:47:06 <Aeyoun> ChrisWarrick: we’re not allowed to complain about Windows for another two weeks. They announced SSH support in PowerShell, so the open source community is honor bound to not complain about them for two weeks for making everyone’s lives better. :P :D
12:47:24 <Aeyoun> ralsina ChrisWarrick: so … html5lib? or not to html5lib? 
12:47:35 <ralsina> I'd say yes
12:47:44 <ChrisWarrick> Aeyoun: PowerShell is part of the slow problem
12:47:51 <ralsina> too bad it's html5lib + lxml so we only fix minor things :-P
12:48:27 <ChrisWarrick> yes for html5lib, just with forced settings (see issue comment)
12:48:32 <ralsina> Aeyoun: hhaha read this one http://t.co/cnHPDUWOxL
12:49:00 <ralsina> we can support a hidden setting where the user can set all the html5lib serializer options, and not even show it in conf.py
12:49:27 <ChrisWarrick> then 4 people will be aware of it and 0 will use it
12:49:27 <ralsina> like "if you got to reading the actual code, yes, you can configure it"
12:50:47 <Aeyoun> how about two presets *or* (undocumented) give your own list of options for the serializer?
12:52:16 <ralsina> people will ask "how can I make this html prettier" or "how can I make this html smaller"
12:52:19 <ChrisWarrick> we know better
12:52:23 <ralsina> so the two presets sound good
12:57:25 <Aeyoun> what would you guys personally use? xml-like or minified?
12:58:44 <Aeyoun> ChrisWarrick: you weren’t happy with the quotationless minififcation, right? but if it’s smaller without it, it stands to reason to drop the quotes. we should leave them in if it gzips better with quotes (as its mostly a repeating pattern it could compress well, but its a small pattern). haven’t tested that.
12:59:43 <ralsina> probably xml-like
12:59:55 <ralsina> I like being able to read my html every once in a while :-)
13:02:25 <ChrisWarrick> Aeyoun: I am really unhappy with no quotes, it looks weird and nobody does that
13:04:36 <Aeyoun> its fully functional, compatible, and indeed minified without quoes. I’ve historically been very in favor of xml-like, closing tags, quotations and the like  … but it’s really just a personal stylistic preference and not because of anything functional.
13:04:54 <Aeyoun> hidden option for manually specifying html5lib serializer options would solve that, though.
13:06:20 <Aeyoun> html5lib already handles the cases where quotation marks are needed ( http://www.webdirections.org/blog/five-reasons-why-you-should-quote-attribute-values-in-html5/ ) so we don’t gain anything by including them.
13:06:39 <Aeyoun> thought there could be tagsoup readers out there that require them.
13:07:28 <ralsina> Oh, ChrisWarrick, you mentioned that planet doesn't support https, which means all our blogs are not in planet python and others anymore, right?
13:07:35 <ChrisWarrick> ralsina: yeah
13:07:40 <ralsina> bummer
13:07:49 <ChrisWarrick> I did not get a response from them
13:08:02 <ChrisWarrick> I have prepared http://rsshttp.chriswarrick.com/ for them
13:08:06 <ralsina> we could do a copy feed via feedburner or something and have them subscribe to that one
13:08:10 <ralsina> ah, cool
13:08:17 <ChrisWarrick> right, feedburner
13:08:32 <ralsina> ChrisWarrick: I got a https error with that page :-)
13:08:41 <ChrisWarrick> ralsina: in modern browsers, it should fail
13:08:48 <ralsina> cool, I am modern then
13:08:56 <ChrisWarrick> ralsina: however, planet is unaware of HSTS
13:10:43 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vIvzK
13:10:43 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/master 5fd5478 Chris Warrick: fix #1785
13:13:22 <Aeyoun> anyone want to work on moving to html5lib? replacing lxml with html5lib sounds like a 8.0 move.
13:13:40 <ralsina> I dont think we can do a full replacement
13:14:34 <ralsina> but hey, using the serializer to have valid output is a good 1st step and about 50 LOC
13:15:16 <ralsina> For example, I don't know if html5lib has something like the link replacer we use in lxml
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13:21:08 <Aeyoun> ralsina: the output is the main thing anyway.
13:22:58 <Aeyoun> ralsina: no link replacer, no. (why are the right links set that late in the process anyway?)
13:23:30 <ChrisWarrick> Aeyoun: what else would you recommend?
13:25:05 <ChrisWarrick> Aeyoun: the other option would be to litter templates with special tags and hope users get paths right
13:28:23 <ChrisWarrick> ralsina: create a feedburner feed for nikola and send a change request to [email protected]
13:29:29 <ralsina> Aeyoun: the links are not wrong at any step in the process. They just are need adjusting when they are inserted in different pages tht go in different URLs :-)
13:29:51 <ralsina> IOW: all links are wrng when it' s a fragment in cache/posts/foo.html
15:06:24 <ChrisWarrick> ralsina: it looks like the planet python folks ignored me the first time; please set up feedburner for our website and email [email protected] with a change request
15:36:36 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to start-1782: http://git.io/vIfVC
15:36:36 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/start-1782 c3d5a4e Chris Warrick: add needs_ipython_css to global context...
15:47:27 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to start-1782: http://git.io/vIfih
15:47:27 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/start-1782 0013534 Chris Warrick: fix #1782 -- detect and apply ipython css...
15:50:10 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska force-pushed start-1782 from 0013534 to ab8765e: http://git.io/vIfXo
15:50:10 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/start-1782 ab8765e Chris Warrick: fix #1782 -- detect and apply ipython css...
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17:49:35 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] humitos created random_post-uptodate (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vIJoC
17:49:35 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/random_post-uptodate bcb0e5d Manuel Kaufmann: Depends on site.timeline...
17:49:50 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] humitos opened pull request #87: Depends on site.timeline (master...random_post-uptodate) http://git.io/vIJo8
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17:56:03 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/master d6a60d5 Roberto Alsina: updated translations
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