00:39:01 -travis-ci:#nikola- getnikola/nikola#9568 (fix-2906 - 1d2e20a : Roberto Alsina): The build is still failing. 00:39:02 -travis-ci:#nikola- Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/compare/285c12b7f889...1d2e20a5194a 00:39:02 -travis-ci:#nikola- Build details: https://travis-ci.org/getnikola/nikola/builds/311587915 15:33:53 <ralsina> Hey ChrisWarrick... since both of us have failed to maintain a proper CMS-like thing for Nikola ... how do you feel about supporting something like https://docs.datocms.com 15:41:29 <ChrisWarrick> ralsina: Sure. There’s also Netlify CMS that does a similar thing. 15:44:38 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to fix-2906: https://git.io/vbZTY 15:44:38 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/fix-2906 16c7e50 Chris Warrick: fname is unused 15:44:45 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbZTs 15:44:45 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/master 60e9861 Chris Warrick: Merge pull request #2928 from getnikola/fix-2906... 15:44:55 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska deleted fix-2906 at 16c7e50: https://git.io/vbZTn 15:57:11 <ralsina> Cool, Dato seems very easy to support 15:57:20 <ChrisWarrick> netlify’s even easier 15:57:27 <ChrisWarrick> you don’t need node on your machine 15:57:30 <ChrisWarrick> (netlify CMS is) 15:57:51 <ralsina> Neat 15:57:59 <ralsina> Hell, let's do both 15:58:13 <ralsina> I think I can do both in one day 15:58:21 <ralsina> Now just need to find a whole day :-) 15:58:42 <ChrisWarrick> https://www.netlifycms.org/docs/quick-start/ 15:59:58 <ChrisWarrick> I’m going to look into Netlify 16:04:53 <ralsina> Cool, I'll look into dato 16:44:04 <KwBot> [nikola] max-arnold opened issue #2930: Unicode exception while compiling template-based shortcode https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2930 16:50:58 <anderbubble> I've recently made some changes to my postcast plugin, but I'm not confident that I'm doing things the right way. Would anyone be willing to look it over and give me feedback on the plugin? (It's only 282 lines in a single file.) 16:51:27 <anderbubble> (It works for me right now, but I get the sense it's fragile, especially around optionally-translatable configuration options.) 16:51:41 <anderbubble> I also don't know if my new configuration directives are appropriately idiomatic. 16:54:17 <ChrisWarrick> anderbubble: go ahead, post a link 16:54:55 <anderbubble> https://github.com/anderbubble/nikola-postcast 16:55:24 <anderbubble> I haven't updated the sample conf.py to match my changes yet 16:56:24 <anderbubble> But here's a snippet of how I have it configured on my site: https://gist.github.com/anderbubble/41942463b8876838d22f6538aa227c6e 16:59:59 <ChrisWarrick> anderbubble: podcast_explicit should be a list of tags IMO (included → True). Very bad: lines 59-61. You should not modify self.site.config like that, instead only change the values you work with (loop over defaults, check site config) 17:02:55 <anderbubble> Oh, weird. I don't remember doing that at all. U must have gotten it from somewhere else. 17:03:02 <anderbubble> *I* must have gotten it from somewhere else. 17:03:04 <ChrisWarrick> anderbubble: TranslatableSettings don’t expose the `.get` API, are you sure it really works? 17:03:12 <ChrisWarrick> The rest looks reasonable to me. 17:04:03 <anderbubble> It definitely works right now, but that was a point of fragility for me earlier. If the value didn't actually have a translaction dict in the config, it was crashing on not having .get(). That's actually a big part of why I was asking. :) 17:04:08 <anderbubble> So I'm glad to hear it called out. 17:04:25 <anderbubble> What should I be doing there in stead? 17:04:38 <anderbubble> (I really appreciate the feedback, by the way.) 17:06:46 <ChrisWarrick> First; what nikola version are you running, and is 'POSTS_SECTION_TITLE' in site.TRANSLATABLE_SETTINGS? (check in `nikola console`, not the source) 17:17:42 <anderbubble> Nikola==7.8.10 17:18:53 <anderbubble> >>> 'POSTS_SECTION_TITLE' in site.TRANSLATABLE_SETTINGS 17:18:54 <anderbubble> True 17:19:12 * anderbubble just now learns about `nikola console` 17:19:19 <anderbubble> That's fantastic. 17:20:46 <ChrisWarrick> type(site.config['POSTS_SECTION_TITLE']) 17:35:43 <anderbubble> >>> type(site.config['POSTS_SECTION_TITLE']) 17:35:43 <anderbubble> <class 'nikola.utils.TranslatableSetting'> 17:36:05 <ChrisWarrick> And it’s a dict from within your plugin? 17:36:57 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] ralsina pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbZWq 17:36:57 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/master 168a5d1 Roberto Alsina: DatoCMS plugin 17:41:21 <ralsina> There, finished with the Dato plugin. Was astonishingly easy 17:41:59 <ralsina> They want to publish it in their newsletter if we write the guide :-) 17:42:09 <ralsina> I think the README would be enough, actually 17:42:30 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] getnikola/plugins#1369 (master - 168a5d1 : Roberto Alsina): The build is still failing. 17:42:31 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/compare/7f948e6407e1...168a5d1018a3 17:42:31 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] Build details: https://travis-ci.org/getnikola/plugins/builds/311983753 17:43:35 <anderbubble> @ChrisWarrick, self.site.config['POSTS_SECTION_TITLE'].get(lang, {}) is returning an empty {}, presumably the default value of the get() call. 17:43:57 <ChrisWarrick> anderbubble: But what type is the thing you call .get() on? 17:44:15 <anderbubble> Oh, that's a TranslatableSetting 17:44:21 <anderbubble> I think, anyway. 17:44:23 <anderbubble> One sec 17:44:41 <ChrisWarrick> ralsina: got netlify working, pretty neato 17:45:10 <anderbubble> <TranslatableSetting: 'POSTS_SECTION_TITLE'> 17:45:36 <ChrisWarrick> From the plugin? Strange. 17:46:04 <anderbubble> To be clear, that .get() isn't working as I thought it was either, though. I've got values for DEFAULT_LANG in conf.py, so I don't know why they aren't reaching the plugin. 17:46:27 <anderbubble> Maybe it has something to do with me permuting self.site.config? 17:46:35 <anderbubble> I'll fix that tonight and check back? 17:46:36 <ChrisWarrick> No, but I see what I didn’t notice 17:46:59 <ChrisWarrick> Yes, you can access .get() because we expose all attributes of the underlying data structure. But you shouldn’t. 17:47:16 <ChrisWarrick> self.site.config['POSTS_SECTION_TITLE'](lang) will do the right thing. 17:52:51 <anderbubble> aha 17:53:07 <anderbubble> and I know I've used that idiom before, so I wonder why I started getting it wrong. 17:53:42 <anderbubble> I'll go ahead and do that real quick in my working copy, and try it out tonight 17:54:14 <anderbubble> again, I really appreciate the feedback, @ChrisWarrick. 17:54:37 <ChrisWarrick> you’re welcome. 18:17:51 <ChrisWarrick> For fans of CMSes: https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/tree/master/v8/datocms || https://github.com/getnikola/nikola-netlify-cms 18:29:16 <ralsina> It's surprising how different the two things are and how much alike they end up working :-) 18:29:30 <ralsina> I could probably do a generate-the-travis.yml thing 18:29:50 <ChrisWarrick> Do what? 18:30:08 <ChrisWarrick> The tutorial is easy enough to follow 18:30:16 <ChrisWarrick> Also, micro-blog-post coming up about the adventures 18:33:44 -travis-ci:#nikola- getnikola/nikola#9571 (master - 60e9861 : Chris Warrick): The build passed. 18:33:45 -travis-ci:#nikola- Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/compare/02510a81933a...60e9861269cf 18:33:45 -travis-ci:#nikola- Build details: https://travis-ci.org/getnikola/nikola/builds/311924705 18:33:48 <ralsina> Yeah 18:34:02 <ralsina> In fact, dato recomments using netlify to build :-) 18:38:37 <ChrisWarrick> got any demo of Dato? (doesn’t have to be public) 18:42:50 <ChrisWarrick> ralsina: ↑ 18:56:09 -travis-ci:#nikola- getnikola/nikola#9569 (fix-2906 - 16c7e50 : Chris Warrick): The build has errored. 18:56:10 -travis-ci:#nikola- Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/compare/1d2e20a5194a...16c7e501dfe5 18:56:10 -travis-ci:#nikola- Build details: https://travis-ci.org/getnikola/nikola/builds/311924636 18:57:08 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbZzt 18:57:08 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/master 4abe7e3 Chris Warrick: Minor README fixes... 19:01:49 <ralsina> ChrisWarrick: hmmm 19:01:58 <ralsina> ChrisWarrick: you can't really see much 19:02:13 <ralsina> ChrisWarrick: I could take a couple of screenshots 19:02:52 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] getnikola/plugins#1370 (master - 4abe7e3 : Chris Warrick): The build is still failing. 19:02:53 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/compare/168a5d1018a3...4abe7e31d56f 19:02:53 -travis-ci:#nikola- [PLUGINS] Build details: https://travis-ci.org/getnikola/plugins/builds/312018813 19:02:54 <ChrisWarrick> Does Dato run locally? 19:02:55 <ralsina> Or just click on the link in the README, it will take you to a new just-configured site even if you don'thave an account 19:03:10 <ralsina> No, just a client script that fetches all the data 19:03:18 <ralsina> everything else is hosted at datocms.com 19:04:34 <ChrisWarrick> does it have a nice markdown editor? 19:04:57 <ralsina> It has a reasonable HTML one 19:05:09 <ralsina> Must admit I have not really tried it all that much :-) 19:17:46 <ChrisWarrick> Blog post about Dato and Netlify: https://getnikola.com/blog/a-cms-or-two-for-nikola-dato-cms-and-netlify-cms-integration.html (cc ralsina) 19:18:16 -GitHub[site]:#nikola- [nikola-site] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbZaq 19:18:16 -GitHub[site]:#nikola- nikola-site/master bf887d9 Chris Warrick: Dato/Netlify CMS blog post... 19:18:58 <ralsina> ChrisWarrick: awesome work as always 19:20:10 <ralsina> ChrisWarrick: maybe you can change the URL for the dato plugin to https://plugins.getnikola.com/v8/datocms/ 19:23:29 <ChrisWarrick> ralsina: What’s the change? 19:59:58 <ralsina> ChrisWarrick: the post has a link to the github page for the readme instead of to the plugins.getnikola.com link 20:00:18 <ralsina> Ah, it's ok now? Or was it ok all along? 20:00:23 <ralsina> Anyway it's ok :-) 20:02:46 -GitHub[site]:#nikola- [nikola-site] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbZKw 20:02:46 -GitHub[site]:#nikola- nikola-site/master 20932c3 Chris Warrick: test commit please ignore... 22:31:12 <anderbubble> @ChrisWarrick, btw, the reason POSTCAST_EXPLICIT can't just be a list is because iTunes differentiates between undefined and false. 22:31:28 <ChrisWarrick> What is the meaning of undefined to iTunes? 22:31:31 <anderbubble> A podcast can be designated as explicit, designated as clean, or undefined. 22:31:43 <anderbubble> Itunes will actually list something as clean if it has explicit=False 22:32:05 <ChrisWarrick> Oh. 22:32:20 <anderbubble> Just saying because I realized it as I started to implemented your recommendation .:) 22:32:25 <ChrisWarrick> (My experience with iTunes as podcatcher: how do people use this and like it?!) 22:32:56 <anderbubble> It puts the podcast in the ipod or else it gets the hose again. 22:37:05 <KwBot> [nikola] Kwpolska closed issue #2930: Unicode exception while compiling template-based shortcode https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2930 22:37:16 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbZx3 22:37:16 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/master a7ede10 Chris Warrick: Fix #2930 -- specify utf-8 as default encoding for Mako... 22:41:31 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbZxM 22:41:31 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/master 287d079 Chris Warrick: Really fix #2930 (change also needed for Lexer)... 23:06:51 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] felixfontein created fix-exceptions (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vbZj5 23:06:51 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/fix-exceptions a6ac1b3 Felix Fontein: When classification is None, a TypeError is raised. 23:09:06 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] felixfontein opened pull request #2931: Exception when using `_link("index", None)` in template (master...fix-exceptions) https://git.io/vbne3 23:37:04 -travis-ci:#nikola- getnikola/nikola#9573 (master - 287d079 : Chris Warrick): The build passed. 23:37:05 -travis-ci:#nikola- Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/compare/a7ede101e4f0...287d0795bc73 23:37:05 -travis-ci:#nikola- Build details: https://travis-ci.org/getnikola/nikola/builds/312117421 23:37:19 -travis-ci:#nikola- getnikola/nikola#9572 (master - a7ede10 : Chris Warrick): The build passed. 23:37:20 -travis-ci:#nikola- Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/compare/60e9861269cf...a7ede101e4f0 23:37:20 -travis-ci:#nikola- Build details: https://travis-ci.org/getnikola/nikola/builds/312115733 23:57:42 <anderbubble> And now I've managed to change my plugin such that my doit tasks aren't being executed. 23:58:10 <anderbubble> It's like I'm back in college where "it compiles" is the metric for success. 23:58:30 <anderbubble> (No nock against nikola; I'm just frustrated at feeling ignorant) 23:58:32 <anderbubble> *knock