13:02:10 <KwBot> [nikola] AnDroidEL opened issue #2559: Exiting due to missing dependencies: "ws4py" and "watchdog" https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2559 13:04:51 <KwBot> [plugins] olymk2 opened issue #184: Issue with org mode https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/issues/184 15:03:44 <KwBot> [nikola] Kwpolska closed issue #2559: Exiting due to missing dependencies: "ws4py" and "watchdog" https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/issues/2559 15:04:34 <KwBot> [plugins] Kwpolska closed issue #184: Issue with org mode https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/issues/184 16:23:19 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] Kwpolska pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vXVEm 16:23:19 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- plugins/master be697bd Chris Warrick: Fix Python 3 bug with lxml and not-really-strings... 16:23:34 <KwBot> [plugins] Kwpolska closed issue #141: import_page encoding problem https://github.com/getnikola/plugins/issues/141 18:26:30 <ChrisWarrick> ralsina: Could you perhaps use some magic to talk to the Debian folks to either update their Nikola package or remove it? It’s unusably ancient and harmful… 18:30:19 <ADubhlaoich> ChrisWarrick nations have risen and fallen trying to get Debian packages updated or removed at short notice 18:31:17 <ChrisWarrick> ADubhlaoich: they’re running v7.6.4, released on 22nd August 2015 18:32:22 <ADubhlaoich> There's no release date for stretch yet so getting an update in would take a while 18:32:28 <ADubhlaoich> Might be better off asking for a removal 18:44:28 <ralsina> I have no debian contacts :-)( 18:44:45 <ralsina> That was meant to be a :-( 18:44:51 <ralsina> Who's the maintainer? 18:45:19 <ralsina> Ha, on stable it's 7.1.0 18:45:56 <ralsina> Ok, pinging people, we'll see what happens 18:46:59 <ralsina> WAT it's not possible to report debian bugs via web??? 18:49:01 <ralsina> sending email, like a farmer 19:03:45 <ToApolytoXaos> ralsina: you mean this? https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/nikola 19:03:55 <ChrisWarrick> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=801796 19:04:00 <ChrisWarrick> off went an angry e-mail 19:06:35 <ToApolytoXaos> naughty naughty ChrisWarrick lol 19:06:45 <ToApolytoXaos> let's hope that your email will shake them a bit 19:07:52 <ToApolytoXaos> they know about the new version since 2016-09-05 19:43:49 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: I meant the instructions here https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting 19:44:09 <ToApolytoXaos> yeah I know what you mean 19:44:24 <ChrisWarrick> "hope you have a Debian machine with proper e-mail setup on it" 19:49:34 <ToApolytoXaos> yeah, that's the stupid part of theirs 19:50:32 <ralsina> not to mention they will never get a "I can't install debian" bug 19:52:11 <ChrisWarrick> eh, you can do that if you’re feeling adventurous 19:57:33 <ToApolytoXaos> lol 19:57:39 <ToApolytoXaos> obviously you don't like debian ralsina 19:58:14 <ChrisWarrick> ToApolytoXaos: (do you realise who ralsina works for?) 19:58:47 <ToApolytoXaos> I have no idea ChrisWarrick 19:58:56 <ChrisWarrick> ToApolytoXaos: Canonical. 19:58:59 <ToApolytoXaos> hahahaha :D 19:59:19 <ToApolytoXaos> I had no idea he was an Ubuntu guy 20:00:34 <ToApolytoXaos> I didn't know Canonical had office in Argentina 20:04:16 <ralsina> I don't like/dislike debian 20:04:39 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: it doesn't, > 90% of people in canonical work from home 20:04:59 <ToApolytoXaos> can I work for them too?! 20:05:06 <ToApolytoXaos> what should I do? 20:05:17 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: http://www.canonical.com/careers 20:05:34 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: if you apply to any position tell them I sent you, if they hire you I get a bonus 20:05:36 <ToApolytoXaos> I presume you must be a guru to pass their standards 20:05:43 <ToApolytoXaos> hahahaha :D 20:05:56 <ralsina> nah 20:06:36 <ralsina> there's like 700 people in Canonical nowadays, can't all be geniuses. I am no genius myself :-) 20:07:23 <ToApolytoXaos> but you must be very talented to work for Canonical 20:07:35 <ralsina> it's just a job 20:07:42 <ralsina> don 20:07:45 <ralsina> oops 20:08:00 <ralsina> don't idealize it, that's not how it works :-) 20:11:14 <ralsina> most positions today seem to be rather high in the foodchain, tho 20:11:43 <ToApolytoXaos> it seems I lack the level of knowledge they request 20:11:51 <ToApolytoXaos> I'm too little next to those giants 20:11:59 <ralsina> "Junior System Reliability Engineer" is not a bad one, but it's office-based in Beijing 20:12:11 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: do you have a college degree? 20:12:58 <ToApolytoXaos> I have a simple Computer Science diploma 20:13:24 <ralsina> well, *I* don't 20:13:40 <ralsina> so, no excuses ;-) 20:13:45 <ToApolytoXaos> but for how many years have you been programming? 20:14:09 <ralsina> as a hobby? A lot. Actually being paid to code? First time on this job, at 42. 20:14:25 <ralsina> well, 40, but I was a manager at first, so not too much coding 20:14:36 <ToApolytoXaos> well, I haven't developed anything myself apart from stupid, simple tiny academic examples; that's all. 20:14:51 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: so, if you want to be a developer, you should start 20:14:56 <ToApolytoXaos> I have been technician all my life :( 20:15:05 <ralsina> I was a sysadmin! 20:15:22 <ToApolytoXaos> me too, but my official responsibility was pretty much everything 20:15:30 <ToApolytoXaos> still though, I can't find a job 20:15:36 <ToApolytoXaos> it's been 1.5 years now 20:15:40 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: it's difficult to get started on things, and it's hard to switch paths, but it can be done 20:16:00 <ToApolytoXaos> I know. You can get a rough idea what I *can* do or know here: https://stefanos82.github.io/ 20:16:08 <ralsina> looking... 20:17:19 <ToApolytoXaos> that's just the surface of my real knowledge 20:17:48 <ralsina> right, so 20:17:59 <ralsina> are you willing to relocate? 20:18:03 <ToApolytoXaos> nope 20:18:15 <ralsina> I can't promise anything but I'll see if I see something 20:18:17 <ToApolytoXaos> besides, I have zero money available 20:18:32 <ralsina> well, fixing that's the point of getting a job :-) 20:18:42 <ToApolytoXaos> just to warn you a bit, I'm an introvert by nature and go crazy with anxiety when I feel really uncomfortable 20:18:48 <ToApolytoXaos> I run as fast as the wind! 20:19:11 <ToApolytoXaos> I have far too many insecurities 20:19:48 <ralsina> ack 20:19:48 * ToApolytoXaos would like to thank his ex for demolishing his self-esteem. 20:20:37 * ralsina goes back to work 20:20:42 <ToApolytoXaos> enjoy 20:20:50 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: I'll keep an eye open for things 20:20:55 <ToApolytoXaos> cheers mate 20:20:58 <ToApolytoXaos> it means a lot to me 20:20:59 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: if I see anything I'll ping you 20:21:02 <ralsina> np