00:28:04 -GitHub[plugins]:#nikola- [plugins] felixfontein opened pull request #168: Improve Sass/LESS inheritance (master...improve-sass-less-inheritance) https://git.io/virGa 00:40:49 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] felixfontein created fix-2496 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/virZB 00:40:49 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- nikola/fix-2496 d61927f Felix Fontein: Try to fix #2496 00:42:24 -GitHub[nikola]:#nikola- [nikola] felixfontein opened pull request #2498: Try to fix #2496 (master...fix-2496) https://git.io/virZ6 00:43:54 -travis-ci:#nikola- getnikola/nikola#7575 (fix-2496 - d61927f : Felix Fontein): The build failed. 00:43:55 -travis-ci:#nikola- Change view: https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/commit/d61927f1ff84 00:43:55 -travis-ci:#nikola- Build details: https://travis-ci.org/getnikola/nikola/builds/160045065 20:14:04 <prxq> hi. do you know if useing pip and virtualenv3 from jessie works with nikola? Or should I install them from source? 20:44:01 <ToApolytoXaos> prxq: if you use virtualenv3, all you must do is to run "pip list" 20:44:53 <ToApolytoXaos> even to make it easier, just run "pip list | grep -i nikola" 20:45:15 <ToApolytoXaos> this way it will display "Nikola (x.y.z)" for you 20:46:08 <prxq> ToApolytoXaos: but does it work to use the one bundled with jessie (debian 8) 20:46:10 <prxq> ? 20:46:20 <prxq> I could just try, I guess.... 20:46:43 <ToApolytoXaos> if you have installed it as a debian package, then run "dpkg --get-selections | grep -i nikola" 20:47:19 <ToApolytoXaos> but I'm against on installing such packages as global packages 20:47:28 <ToApolytoXaos> I prefer installing them under virtualenv 20:47:41 <ToApolytoXaos> I use virtualenvwrapper myself which makes my life a lot simpler with virtualenv 21:17:42 <ralsina> prxq: Nikola works with python 2.7 and python 3.4 and 3.5 IIRC 21:17:57 <ralsina> prxq: I have no idea what comes in Jessie but the easiest thing is to just try it 21:18:15 <prxq> i see you can install virtualenv with pip, and i already installed pip from sources. 21:27:13 <prxq> fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory 21:28:11 <prxq> that means a -dev package is missing, I suppose.... 21:28:17 * prxq fires up aptitude 21:29:29 <prxq> ok works now 21:30:03 <prxq> well, the installation :-) I need sleep. 'night, and thanks. 21:36:51 <ToApolytoXaos> ralsina: he's going to have a major problem I'm afraid 21:37:15 <ralsina> ToApolytoXaos: why? 21:37:19 <ToApolytoXaos> there's a "trap" as I call it with debian packages regards to python and pip 21:38:13 <ToApolytoXaos> well, you could check with pip for outdated packages and assumed by upgrading them will fix some of your problems, but in reality it will over-complicate things 21:38:17 <ToApolytoXaos> I have been there myself 21:38:39 <ToApolytoXaos> that's why I prefer creating virtual environments 21:39:23 <ToApolytoXaos> the issue that happened to me goes like this 21:39:49 <ToApolytoXaos> my python packages pointed elsewhere, my pip upgraded packages pointed again elsewhere, and virtualenv of course elsewhere 21:41:17 <ToApolytoXaos> while the python itself tried to distinguish which went where, it messed up badly package dependencies and it would create a circular dependency chaos 21:45:36 <SteveDrees> I've recently fallen in love with https://github.com/saghul/pythonz 21:47:38 <ToApolytoXaos> well, it would be nice if we have an environment like nvm 21:47:44 <ToApolytoXaos> that would be more than awesome 21:48:14 <ToApolytoXaos> also, I like how npm allows you to init a project at any location you like and simply fetch modules inside that directory 21:48:19 <ToApolytoXaos> mind...blowing! 21:48:25 <ToApolytoXaos> no need to virtualenv and crap 21:48:39 <ToApolytoXaos> every single project should carry its modules with it 21:48:51 <ToApolytoXaos> like nikola is currently doing with its plugins 21:48:54 <ToApolytoXaos> the same concept 21:49:03 <ToApolytoXaos> ralsina: another reason I love your project 21:52:11 <ToApolytoXaos> pythonbrew tried to achieve the same behavior with rvm, which with its turn inspired nvm, but...it would still depend on virtualenv 22:22:52 <ToApolytoXaos> ralsina: remember my aforementioned example? well, guess what...a local pbr version that just got uninstalled conflicts with the one that got installed from python3 dependencies' packages 22:22:55 <ToApolytoXaos> darn it :/